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09-11-12, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ZS Phil
Why unfortunately? A diesel ZR with map, SDIs, decat and upped boost (max £300) will run the same bhp as a ZR 160 and almost twice the torque. I know which I would rather drive along a nice twisty B road.
Not to mention use half as many revs and almost double MPG. Half price tax and half price insurance. Furthermore the diesel will happily take the miles and be more reliable
Haters gunna hate.
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Sorry if any offence was caused, really not my intent. I do know what your talking about but its the way the diesel delivers the power to the 160. It may have more torque but the gears are just to short. I dont think the power is as accessable as it is in the 160. That's the main thing i love about my ZS 180, the long lazy gears
Reallly not hating on diesel's, would happily drive a ZS diesel
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09-11-12, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lukeus101
What sort of budget mate? Will keep my eyes peeled for you
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As cheap as possible
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Originally Posted by talkingcars
Do they even do a diesel ZR, I thought they only come in 25 flavour.
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Yup, ZR Diesel 101ps and 115ps variants
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09-11-12, 09:30 PM
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> ZR 105 (Broken) > MK2 ZS 180 (Sold) > MK1 ZS 180 (Sold) > ZR Replica (Dead) > MK1 ZS 180 (Broken)
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09-11-12, 09:35 PM
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Oh yeah... NOT SILVER. I don't want a Silver car lol
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09-11-12, 09:41 PM
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can confirm all of those faults are common on 75/zt, also the electrics, plenum fills up with water wrecks the ecu
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09-11-12, 09:54 PM
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There are also 2.0 KV6 at 160 bhp and 2.5 auto KV6 at 180bhp
plus there is a 190 bhp which is a 1.8 turbo.
And the diesel use BMW engines.
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09-11-12, 09:57 PM
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I don't like diesel cars, spend all day driving lorries and fork lifts............
and have you ever heard a decent sounding road going diesel car?
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09-11-12, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven11
Sorry if any offence was caused, really not my intent. I do know what your talking about but its the way the diesel delivers the power to the 160. It may have more torque but the gears are just to short. I dont think the power is as accessable as it is in the 160. That's the main thing i love about my ZS 180, the long lazy gears
Reallly not hating on diesel's, would happily drive a ZS diesel
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haha, no offense was caused, sorry if I came across as being snotty. I was just making the point that if you can see past the sound at tick over then a diesel ZR makes perfect sense when pitched against any of the petrol versions.
I guess its all personal preference, I have had a ZS 180 in the past before my ZS diesel and personally I prefer the sensation of being thrown back in your seat without the need to change gear. I know its not actually quicker than a 160 from a standing start but 30 to 50 pull in third (real world driving for overtaking etc) and its bye bye 160 Im afraid.
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Originally Posted by talkingcars
I don't like diesel cars, spend all day driving lorries and fork lifts............
and have you ever heard a decent sounding road going diesel car?
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A couple of clips for the old auditory ossicles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN0Zc...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAieHZPpMcY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqyszLVZl2U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N9CmOlixOc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o6E9...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THlqwMldhsM
Even the old l series on boost is quite a chirpy old girl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-OoB96c3cI
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09-11-12, 10:38 PM
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If the 180 is your daily why do you want a diesel?
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10-11-12, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Nobrainer
If the 180 is your daily why do you want a diesel?
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The ZR is to replace the F, which is shared between a friend and I. She uses it instead of her motorbike in winter, and i cant use it because of the kids (3 people and 2 seats) - the F isnt that good a winter car, even with the hard top.
Also I would quite like to be able to go see my parents without using over 2 tanks of fuel... hence the diesel.
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