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Hi all just jointed with my MK2 ZS but a few people have asked about the ZR track car so here it is......
Started with buying the car in summer 2013 just as a everyday car for £800 as i already had a Evo 7 RS Sprint for trackdays and a MK5a RS2000 Escort i was using on track with the plan on doing some amateur motorsport but i gave up on that because getting hold of good parts was just to much trouble so decided to use the ZR :idea:
Few the Escort....
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As first brought....
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Anyway back to the good stuff first jobs were Avo springs, B&G rear camber plates, at this point i wasnt planning on going all out so took her as was to Bedford just for fun....
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So after a few months i done a few basic things to the car and as a few friends were going to Bedford Autodrome again i thought i would once again take the ZR....
In the mean time i had picked up a cheap set of rally tyres....
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Put on some grooved disc's and EBC yellow stuff pads....
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Made a loom for gauges and added into the ISO loom for radio....
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And off i went had a wicked day and showed my mates how it was done and much to there disappointment the ZR with 109k didnt had any HG faults :happy2: All tho the EBC pads were complete rubbish and after a few laps needed a slow lap to cool or i had a rock hard pedal and no brake fiction and even on a cool day the oil temp was way to high causing low pressure....
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After stopping on for a beer on the way home with the boys and the Escort still out of use trying to find parts it was at this point the choice was made to move on to the ZR and cut my losses with the poor old Ford
Let the big spending begin all over again.....
Almost £2000 of brakes Hispec R126-6 6pot race calipers, AP 330x28mm rotors, Reyland motorsport brackets and bells with DS3000 race pads....
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Fitted a Mocal oil cooler with 80 degrees thermostat and modded oil filter housing for gauge sensors, fitted cooler on the passenger side so the cooling fan would draw air though....
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Time to remove any thing not needed A/C, trim, sound proving etc etc luckily were was a R25 with no A/C at local breakers so had the heater box, alternator relocation bracket etc from it ....
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Added a bit of colour....
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And a Scorpion cat back exhaust with race centre tube....
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And back off to Bedford to test it, the improvement was amazing car seem to really come alive, handling was much improved along with acceleration and turn in speed but the brakes were stunning almost put you though the windscreen :mbounce:....
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On to passing a Clio 182....
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After this i went down the move power route and engine rebuild....
Late VHPD throttle bodies....
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Before and after....
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Adapter made to link the 4mm vacuum hose to 10mm Map sensor....
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Used the IACV take off and put a t-piece in for servo....
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Fuel rail and wiring on....
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All on for a quick test run....
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Now onto rebuild had injectors tested to make sure wouldn't need to run to much duty cycle all were ok but had new filter, best spray was at 5bar which made them flow 272cc so approx rating at 244bhp on a N/A engine....
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Engine out and on stand....
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No real problems was a bit of pick-up on main bearing and liners were level so i put 4 thou shims in when rebuilt....
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All the parts were cleaned, measured etc to check tolerances etc....
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Now for rebuild using OE colour coded bearings, rings etc....
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"N" series gasket kit
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Next to get it back in with a new AP clutch....
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Then a new Emerald K6 was ordered....
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Next was to make a new engine wiring loom so could put the new ecu in the passenger foot well....
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All the multi-plugs needed....
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Adding in the solder sleeves on the shielded cables for interference to ground on the cam and crankshaft sensors....
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Test fit before all the plugs etc were added....
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Making of a plug, in this case 02 sensor....
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Lukeus101
14-11-15, 06:28 PM
Been following this thread over on XPF :) cracking work mate :)
Next was to remove the 6 pins i needed from the small MEMS ecu plugs (for fuel pump relay etc) i didnt want to cut up the factory part of loom in case it ever went back to standard etc so i added in 6-way male and female micro JPT plugs....
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And the finished job factory loom into my loom without any cutting or damage....
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I also fitted flat switch :ohmy: Switch below....
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Quick test to make sure ecu seeing pedal postion....
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Repairing the worn out gear linkage and fiting a Dark ice quickshift kit, this was a real pain had to heat and bend in the gear rods as you couldn't get 5th hardly at all as they rubbed really bad....
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As so added a remote take off for oil pressure gauge to get it away from the sub-frame....
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Putting in the base maps....
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I also wiring the in the MIL lamp to act as a shift light....
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And at last all back together for a quick test run....
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At this point run into a problem i had a oil leak from the rear of the headgasket, off again then.... :sick:
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Not sure what happened to gasket....
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And way on went a LR gasket with saver shim, no more leak....
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Mapping next....
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No problems here made stock power but with a fair bit more torque and the car pulled though the rev's a lot better on drive home....
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Next was onto another test day at Bedford Autodrome to test it out as didnt want to go far in-case was a problem, that turnt out to be a wise choice. About 20mins in the engine lost power and was rattling so called it a day and a waste of £160 but there you go. Not 100% sure what happened but the front VVC unit was rattling like mad but after a compression and cylinder leakage test was done no damaged valves to piston ring troubles were found the engine was removed and a Piper 285H solid cam kit was ordered and thats were i am at this point. The plan was to use it with the VVC for a while to give me a bit of time to get the money together to get the full race Piper kit and the steel bottom end, forged pistons etc but there you go. I didnt think it was worth paying £600 odd for a new Rover cam and VVC unit as the Piper kit was £1020 nor did i want to risk using a second hand unit.
So again engine out....
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On stand....
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Piper kit from DVA power....
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Head off again but trying another "N" series gasket all tho this one has the slickly glue coating as on the old LR head saver shim which the first gasket didnt have....
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Steel caps and uprated valve springs in....
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Cams in....
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All built back up again....
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While it was out i thought i would paint the engine bay....
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Changed the colour for next year too, the engine bay will match the bumper and wheels which are a red-orange colour called "Chevy Orange"
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And for now that is it hope it didnt bore you to deaf :stupid:
Heres a link to my youtube channel which has some trackday videos....
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNQW2bPZFFI2F_Tx5Vh41bQ
Also got these to start the year off, a set of MGCC race slicks....
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Just to end pictures of the ZR looking sorry for its self on last trackday :wave:....
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And being recovered :rofl:...
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Oh and plans to do over xmas....
1. ABS is gone
2. Uprated larger master cylinder
3. Race seat and harness (with weld in FIA floor tubes)
4. Lever type brake bias adjuster
5. Lightweight flywheel
6. Have it mapped again should be between 180-190bhp if goes to plan
Been following this thread over on XPF :) cracking work mate :)
Thanks mate getting there slowly :slap:
stamford
15-11-15, 10:43 AM
How I miss working on small engines! My KV6 takes up too much room and is a pita to rotate on the stand! One day I'll get stuck in. Looking good so far.
Supercharged_Z
15-11-15, 11:17 AM
looks good, amazes me nowadays the money people spend on such old motors :) but all good fun.
How I miss working on small engines! My KV6 takes up too much room and is a pita to rotate on the stand! One day I'll get stuck in. Looking good so far.
I know thats why I stuck with the K in the ZS really because its easy to work on and I have loads of spare parts :ohmy:
looks good, amazes me nowadays the money people spend on such old motors :) but all good fun.
Yeah spent to much on it now tho so gotta keep going as wont get half of it back and I enjoy getting out on track so I get what I want out of it at end of day.
Yeah spent to much on it now tho so gotta keep going as wont get half of it back and I enjoy getting out on track so I get what I want out of it at end of day.
I saw a zs at mallory destroy an m6 and m3 new shape bmw's, now there must have been nearly a 1000hp combined there, and less than 200hp in a well sorted zs destroyed them, the red faced M3 driver hated it, the M6 driver loved it so much he asked to go passenger in it!!!
Track toys aren't cheap, but I'm totally with you in what they give you back in fun, and its always nice to be the 'underdog'!
I saw a zs at mallory destroy an m6 and m3 new shape bmw's, now there must have been nearly a 1000hp combined there, and less than 200hp in a well sorted zs destroyed them, the red faced M3 driver hated it, the M6 driver loved it so much he asked to go passenger in it!!!
Track toys aren't cheap, but I'm totally with you in what they give you back in fun, and its always nice to be the 'underdog'!
Yeah that's very true its defo not cheap to be honest I could have done the Evo for more less same price but I wouldn't have been able to compete low level with that and to be honest its just as much fun with the ZR anyway plus good to have something a bit different thing I've only ever been on track with with one MG. Was thinking of going with Mg's on track just to see a few :bike:
fastmike
16-11-15, 08:57 AM
Great project , look forward to reading/seeing more of this
sneekyparrot
16-11-15, 04:26 PM
For me its not just the monies spent but also the build. To take something back to the chassis then mod and build how you want it, to know every nut and bolt thats gone into it.
And well that moment it fires up for the first time well:
:mbounce:
For me its not just the monies spent but also the build. To take something back to the chassis then mod and build how you want it, to know every nut and bolt thats gone into it.
And well that moment it fires up for the first time well:
:mbounce:
Well at end of the day if I don't spend it the missis only will..... My excuse anyway :happy2:
I saw a zs at mallory destroy an m6 and m3 new shape bmw's, now there must have been nearly a 1000hp combined there, and less than 200hp in a well sorted zs destroyed them
need to get miss daisy out of those cars then!!!
:rofl:
need to get miss daisy out of those cars then!!!
:rofl:
Missed that comment :whip:
First update in while too cold and wet to do anything at the mo :mad:
Race seat here....
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Race license application here to....
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ZS Phil
12-12-15, 11:39 PM
Are you planning on racing it?
Are you planning on racing it?
Yes mate thats the plan but to be honest think it will be in 2017 now
ZS Phil
13-12-15, 11:37 AM
Cool, in which series?
Cool, in which series?
This is the dilemma, I'm out of the MG races unless I go back to standard car, MSV track day trophy could be a go but you need 2 drives or a 40min race with a timed pit shop but mods are free as its done on power to weight ratios. Other option is to get another 160 and just use mine for trackdays
New 3.5kg flywheel came today so i'm almost read to start getting it back together now....
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Missed that comment :whip:
you thought better of it??
This is the dilemma, I'm out of the MG races unless I go back to standard car, MSV track day trophy could be a go but you need 2 drives or a 40min race with a timed pit shop but mods are free as its done on power to weight ratios. Other option is to get another 160 and just use mine for trackdays
it will go into class c of cockshoot cup
silverdreamracer on here can do your ards and sort medical etc
you thought better of it??
it will go into class c of cockshoot cup
silverdreamracer on here can do your ards and sort medical etc
Thanks for that mate will look into that :bow:
Quick update, been busy getting all the engine bay parts cleaned and painted, popped over to DVA and had the verniers and cam timing set up so im just about ready to get it all back together over xmas break cant wait. Finished gearbox today too :p....
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ZS Phil
23-12-15, 06:47 PM
Gearbox looks great, what are the specs?
talkingcars
23-12-15, 08:22 PM
Gearbox looks great, what are the specs?
Seconded.
Sorry guys nothing fancy inside just yet only had a open up to make sure wasn't anything that should cause a problem this year.
Of course the Starter got stripped and painted will need new bushes soon tho, brackets got some love to really happy with how it turned out.
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peterzs
25-12-15, 09:23 AM
Looking good.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Looking good.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Thanks :joker:
Got some time on the car today at last :)....
Getting some brackets painted....
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One of said brackets fitted with new bolts, dont worry i had new nuts as well but seemed to have mis-placed them :confused:....
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New 3.5kg flywheel on....
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Engine and gearbox meeting again....
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And where its meant to be at last....
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Still a fair way off but on the right track now hoping to get the cam cover painted tomorrow and the rest of the mounts on.
Got the Cam/coil overs done at last....
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peterzs
02-01-16, 03:30 PM
going for the concours look??
Will look good when its all back together.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
going for the concours look??
Will look good when its all back together.
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
No mate no where near that standard :) just looking to brighten it up a bit so when its cooling off in pits looks like it was worth spending all the money on :thumbsup:
ZS Phil
02-01-16, 10:55 PM
Looks great, almost seems a shame to get it dirty!
Looks great, almost seems a shame to get it dirty!
Well can soon wash it :thumbsup:
you've put a lot of time and effort into the oil cooling system, does it have a baffled sump to keep it in the right place in the engine tho?
No it doesn't at the minute but to be fair even after all the trackdays its done using slicks etc and 119k (on original engine too still) all the bearings, crankshaft were still serviceable so it cant have have any oil problems to be fair. Saying that tho the sump will be coming off after the cams have been bedded in to clean as much of the running oil away so it will be getting one just to be safe
awww,
the 190 trophy cars had baffled sumps and the f cup cars had dry sumps!
Might be worth thinking about?
awww,
the 190 trophy cars had baffled sumps and the f cup cars had dry sumps!
Might be worth thinking about?
Dry sump would be nice i did look into those but i never found any kits for the ZR as you have a brace that bolts onto the bottom of the sump and into the subframe with none of the dry sumps have it still like you say the guys on MGCC dont seem to be having problems so it would must likely be a huge over kill on the car and the pocket :)
yep, dry sump is big bucks.
A simple sump baffle kit is a cheap remedy and functional.
yep, dry sump is big bucks.
A simple sump baffle kit is a cheap remedy and functional.
Custom made or off the shelf?
Custom made or off the shelf?
off the shelf sump baffles for the k4 cost about as much as 5ltrs of decent oil.
I had mine tack welded in place at a local engineering outfit, so that was an extra 30quid.
The kv6 on the other hand needs numerous plates welding in place to baffle it up, the kv6 sump is pretty good in the first place.
I was looking at the Elise parts only looks a good bit of kit and fits all K series it says I know the early and late sumps are slightly different think was about £80
Got the brake lines run today....
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ZS Phil
10-01-16, 07:03 PM
Looking good as always. What master cylinder are you using? You going to run a bias valve?
Looking good as always. What master cylinder are you using? You going to run a bias valve?
Thanks mate trying my best :) same master as a 190 spec ZR (so a landrover one basically) and yes be a lever type bias near the handbrake
got a good bit done today was going to go to Autosport at NEC tomorrow but as weather is looking ok i'm going to get a bit more done hoping if all goes well i get finally get it running tomorrow instead.... :)....
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ZS Phil
18-01-16, 07:20 PM
I really need to pull my finger out with mine :(
I really need to pull my finger out with mine :(
you and me both!!!
Why doesn't mine look like that? D:
Why doesn't mine look like that? D:
Probably because most people have better things to do with there free time :joker:
Coming along very nicely John. You thought about an airbox rather than socks? I've a Bernard Scouse box in both my track BRM and ZS. Reverie do a lovely carbon box too but it's quite a bit more expensive.
Edit, saying that the BS boxes need modifying to fit around the master cylinder, but the Reverie box may well fit without modding as its a little smaller.
Coming along very nicely John. You thought about an airbox rather than socks? I've a Bernard Scouse box in both my track BRM and ZS. Reverie do a lovely carbon box too but it's quite a bit more expensive.
Edit, saying that the BS boxes need modifying to fit around the master cylinder, but the Reverie box may well fit without modding as its a little smaller.
I have mate yes not cheap tho are they ;)
Finally got it running today....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHyu7PPEtlU
Race battery came today really pleased with it and another 8KG off the ZR's weight. Was a bit worried as CCA is only 170amps but turns over no problem :)....
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talkingcars
09-02-16, 09:22 PM
What was the price, I could do with one that size on my F.
What was the price, I could do with one that size on my F.
JJC race and rally have a offer on was £96 I'm sure with the mounting bracket all in posted.
ZS Phil
10-02-16, 10:26 AM
Awesome, big weight saving there.
I need to wire in a kill switch so plan on doing a light weight battery at the same time.
Where are you going to mount it?
Mounting it where the passenger seat once was :yikes:
Had a day off today to try get finished up only a few silly things now but other than getting the battery mounted and sorting the cables out its about ready for mapping, i will do the seat and plump in the bias valve etc later :)
Got the PRT fitted and put in a 90 degree hose to repair the heater pipe, also the uprated master cylinder in but i will need to get a different air filter due to the not much clearance now ....
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/temporary_zpsfbtyd8ko.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/temporary_zpsfbtyd8ko.jpg.html)
And it looks like the end is almost in site just need to get the other wheels on so the slicks get a good clean up on the rollers :p go to see it back together tho, also got a quick run up the street and back to make sure it drives :)....
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Few more bits today :)
Race safety seat sub frame mounting kit and FIA master switch....
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Biggest update of the year the battery is in, really got to get motivated on thus project again was meant to be mapped last weekend only a few jobs to do now but cant get in the right mind frame to get it finished....
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Dont fancy removing that stuff again done it on the Escorts was a killer. Probably should have done it over winter then was cold
There's a big weight saving with the sound deadening though...I've tried both heating and scraping it and just chiselling it off. Chiselling is easier but causes more damage. Heating and scraping is just minging!
Stuffs a nightmare ain't it that why I not bothered :wacko: I found was easier to let it get really cold. I will probably do it when it gets caged then can paint the whole floor/cage mounts in one job
best done cold, some c02 extinguishers can really help, it is well worth it tho and beats spending money when some free weight saving can be had.
best done cold, some c02 extinguishers can really help, it is well worth it tho and beats spending money when some free weight saving can be had.
When I did mine I used dry ice, left it on for 10 minutes with some cleaning alcohol and it came off in lumps, I did the whole car in the time it took to do a 30cm by 30cm section in my boot. Definitely recommend that over any other method.
ZS Phil
21-03-16, 05:42 PM
A bit more motivation for you:
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk11/zsphil/Track%20180/DSC_0686_zpsgn0zgirz.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/zsphil/media/Track%20180/DSC_0686_zpsgn0zgirz.jpg.html)
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk11/zsphil/Track%20180/DSC_0688_zpsasgxhqlq.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/zsphil/media/Track%20180/DSC_0688_zpsasgxhqlq.jpg.html)
Nearly 12 kgs!!
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk11/zsphil/Track%20180/DSC_0696_zpsnvuevnoz.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/zsphil/media/Track%20180/DSC_0696_zpsnvuevnoz.jpg.html)
Thanks guys but if you all keep giving me more jobs I definitely wont get finished :shutup: Really aiming to be finished (to a,mappable standard anyway) by this weekend :wacko:
Finally a update guys just not been into it lately but had a bit of go today must have been the weather....
Getting it ready for the final push fir mapping....
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Put the bigger master cylinder on but the bottle was to big so i had to strip it now and put on the original bottle on the new master cylinder....
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Next job was to get the HEL brake lines on....
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Followed by the Wilwood bias valve....
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And the rear brake pipes just got to fit the P clips....
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Got the running in oil out, run it back up with some cheap 10w40 semi engine to flush it through and in with the 5w40 ester motorsport oil. Oil pressure is 0.5 bar higher with the motorsport oil....
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Also got the track wheels out in week to get all the dead rubber off ready for the mapping session....
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Good work!! Just need to get rid of the sound deadening now!
Good work!! Just need to get rid of the sound deadening now!
Hopefully I will get onto that soon :)
ZS Phil
11-04-16, 04:22 PM
Good stuff, when are you hoping to have it out on track? Also, is it running stock suspension?
Good stuff, when are you hoping to have it out on track? Also, is it running stock suspension?
At the minute its just on Avo springs as the original plan was to run in class D of the MG trophy so coilovers wasn't a option but as that's now out of the question they can be changed all tho in all honesty that set up worked really well. I want to be out again around end of this month/ very start of next. Mapping is pencilled in for the 23rd as dont think I will be quite finished by this Saturday
tcb 180
14-04-16, 08:50 AM
Top thread. Well done with your perseverance on this one. That 1st Head Gasket looked faulty from the start ?
Top thread. Well done with your perseverance on this one. That 1st Head Gasket looked faulty from the start ?
I didn't notice anything about it to be honest it looked like a lot of HG's for later cars I deal with just just a dull coating on top. When I got the replacement N series gasket it had a sticky surface coating which the first one didn't. I done a bit of research on problems with the N series gasket and there's a lot of people on Lotus forms that have had lots of problems with the gaskets and bad/different length bolts etc. If I do it again at any point I will just use the MLS Payen gasket been using that one for over 10 years in the trade never had any complaints with it
Got the battery wiring done today.....
Terminals crimped....
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Routed from battery to kill switch....
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FIA kill switch and resistor in....
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Also have a through panel connector where the cable runs through the bulk head but my cone cutter wasnt quite big enough....
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Also put in the through panel connectors for the brake lines....
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Just few little jobs to tidy up and be ready for some track action again.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks mate :)
stamford
17-04-16, 06:42 AM
Are those crimping tools expensive? The ones we had at the other place were, they could do 120mm sq cable. I need to redo my cables and switch at some point once the battery has been moved again.
Are those crimping tools expensive? The ones we had at the other place were, they could do 120mm sq cable. I need to redo my cables and switch at some point once the battery has been moved again.
No mate its only a cheap one off ebay. Its a hand held hydraulic one that you change the jaws over for different cable (up to 70mm2) it does a good crimp but its quite bulky but for £25 what you expect :closedeyes: Had it for while tho and its still working touch wood. Like you say to get any good ones be a minimum of £100
Loaded up ready for a date with the mapper and rollers.....
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Dan1971
25-05-16, 07:10 AM
Looking sweet ... hopefully it'll go as well as it looks after a tune up too.
Looking sweet ... hopefully it'll go as well as it looks after a tune up too.
Well that would be nice but I'm not going to say anything as don't want to curse it :joker:
Rockey5uk2001
25-05-16, 11:48 AM
fingers crossed dude!
Ok for some reason forgot to update thread, mapping didn't go well the power and torque just keep dropping off so was obvious something was wrong. We did what we could in the time we had with the tools we had but to no luck. The mappers thought there to be a problem with either the cams being incorrect or the timing being out. So anyway after a week depression at the reasons i was close to getting rid of the car and being done with it but after a break away i looked into the problem. First rechecked compressions all reading ok @ 1-200psi 2-200psi 3-210psi 4-220psi. checked ecu setting, fuel pressure, throttle bodies etc etc everything was fine so onto cam timings. I didnt do this myself when built engine as i didnt have the correct tools/gauges etc to set up the verniers so i had a well known person (who im not going to name) do the job for me. After a few days waiting for the digital dial gauge etc to turn i could get on with making the brackets etc to get the job done. Using the "lift at DTC" method i carried out the job, below are the results and the settings....
Cam settings first....
Piper's setting Intake cam - 2.24mm DVA Powers setting for exhaust cam - 2.79mm
Piper's setting exhaust cam - 1.98mm DVA Powers setting for exhaust cam -2.41mm
And here are my findings....
Intake cam....
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Exhaust cam....
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So as you can see the exhaust is way out, im happy i had found the most likely course of the fault but not happy about being £200 down for the cost of 1 hours rolling road and mappers time.
Got it all reset now and run it up, the engine note is completely different now and it revs up a lot faster so be back to the rollers asap....
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ZS Phil
07-06-16, 09:10 PM
Fair play, good on you for sticking at it. Just makes it all that much more rewarding when it is finally right.
Nowhere near the end of the world. When I had my ZS on the RR after fitting the ITB's the head gasket went. Find it, went back and is better than ever, just stick with it and you'll be rewarded in the end.
I'd certainly complain to whoever timed the cams first though!
Thanks guys, like you say not end of world just such a kick in the balls
sneekyparrot
08-06-16, 07:33 AM
SOOOO Frustrating John, kinda one of the reasons i try and do everything myself.
Only 3-4 guys i would ever trust to do anything on my cars / bikes for the exact issues you have had :-(
Nice gauge, mine was an older dial style but i made the mistake of lending it out and well never saw it again. Another lesson learnt :no:
looking good thou
P.
Dan1971
08-06-16, 07:58 AM
:bow:
Always respect a guy who does this for himself. Good on you.
SOOOO Frustrating John, kinda one of the reasons i try and do everything myself.
Only 3-4 guys i would ever trust to do anything on my cars / bikes for the exact issues you have had :-(
Nice gauge, mine was an older dial style but i made the mistake of lending it out and well never saw it again. Another lesson learnt :no:
looking good thou
P.
Yes it is actually a really good tool managed to get it from our tool supplier though work so was only £45 plus vat online there £70 on. It measures 0-25mm which is handy too
:bow:
Always respect a guy who does this for himself. Good on you.
Was enjoyable I must say just bit time consuming trying to get the adjusting bolts as close to centre as I could. Shame it seems to be the problem those as it is the just about only job that I didn't do :sly:
stamford
08-06-16, 07:57 PM
The reasons you posted for the issues found is why I find it hard to trust someone hence why I do all my own rebuilds and setting up, there's only one person to blame if it is incorrect. Being a time-served toolmaker by trade makes it easier as tend to have the tools, even after all these years away from a workshop! I know the feeling when things go against you and you feel like shoite, always pays to walk away, take a break and revisit when the minds refreshed. Pleased you go it it sorted and no doubt feel pretty damn good with yourself too!
peterzs
08-06-16, 08:29 PM
glad you got it sorted, all above me I'm afraid.
I can however appreciate the skill and knowledge to set it up.
Hope you get the results you want on the RR
:bow::bow::bow:
Thanks everyone hoping to get it down asap really so I might go up to Emerald to get it mapped speed things up a bit otherwise it probably be another month or two before it gets done, my guy working over seas again with Motec where as Emerald taking bookings from 1st July
Glad you appear to have got to the bottom of the problem.
I've had loads of setbacks with the car here, and I've come close to torching it on more than one occasion, I am not fortunate enough to be able to do the work myself so I am at the mercy of third parties....
For me I hope the delays and setbacks will all be worth it in the end - so keep going, and keep up the good work :)
Glad you appear to have got to the bottom of the problem.
I've had loads of setbacks with the car here, and I've come close to torching it on more than one occasion, I am not fortunate enough to be able to do the work myself so I am at the mercy of third parties....
For me I hope the delays and setbacks will all be worth it in the end - so keep going, and keep up the good work :)
I definitely no that feeling :)
Finally going to get the race seat in while waiting for mapping, got the factory mount out today....
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/temporary_zpspzzojgww.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/temporary_zpspzzojgww.jpg.html)
Got the head lights sorted today, they were in such poor condition were almost completely yellow, since I wasn't planning on using it on road again I painted the lights black but after a rethink I would quite like to attend a few shows next year so thought I would try clean them up. First of used thinners' to remove paint, then a 800-1200 wet flat, cut back with mid then fine compound and a polish all done using the mop. While there I also opened them and painted the black plastic to match wheels etc....
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Finally got the out and the FIA floor bars welded in and the race seat fitted, only had a steady run out as the map needs redoing but about 4500rpm cars feels pretty quick indeed and the intake noise is amazing. Unfortunately had no idea on speed as no longer have a speedo since ABS has gone but the revs where going up quick....
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talkingcars
30-07-16, 10:09 PM
Looking good.
Do you have a sat nav with a speed reading?
Looking good.
Do you have a sat nav with a speed reading?
Funny enough I thought that luckily must of the driving was on country roads and I knew just below 2000rpm in 4th was 30mph :)
Few more bits done, cleaned up and painted bars and weld's and got harness in....
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All approved till 2020
Lukeus101
10-08-16, 02:00 PM
<3 Sparco Sprint seats :D
Do like the Sprint seat FIA approved for under £300 :bow: All that's need for this project anyway
Lukeus101
10-08-16, 07:49 PM
Spent many hours in some in my old ZR. Need some more...once I've got a car lol
Yeah I guess not much use without a car lol.... Still mine sat in living room for few months used to sit in it while playing the xbox :)
Lukeus101
11-08-16, 09:34 AM
Would love something like this
https://wuxshen54.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/most-expensive-driving-simulators-top-10-7-vrx-imotion-30-000.jpg
Would love something like this
https://wuxshen54.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/most-expensive-driving-simulators-top-10-7-vrx-imotion-30-000.jpg
Holly ****
Skillen
11-08-16, 11:27 AM
Need more than an Xbox for that resolution!
Lukeus101
11-08-16, 03:35 PM
Will need deep pockets too lol
Quick update, everything apart from getting the door strips painted is done and she's booked in at Emerald start of September for mapping. I will have 3 maps done being road, race and sprint so hopefully can get back on a trackday by mid September. Since ive got to drive it upto emerald and I've finally got the ZS wheels finished I'm putting them on the ZR as they have new tyres and if all goes well on mapping side I will probably use it for the month.....
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/temporary_zpsaggo7no6.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/temporary_zpsaggo7no6.jpg.html)
stamford
28-08-16, 02:40 PM
Looking good and the plans sound even better.
Looking good and the plans sound even better.
Thanks mate :) trouble with plans is they can soon go wrong
stamford
29-08-16, 06:48 AM
Thanks mate :) trouble with plans is they can soon go wrong
Yes but plans can always be for improvements 😉
Ok guys we are all mapped up and ready for track again. Thank God everyone went great at Emerald and I had a really enjoyable day there all tho wasn't nice driving there on the base map car drove horrible on road and was stuck in traffic on black cat roundabout at the A1 at 7am couldn't believe it. Anyway drive home was great and all smiles so was all worth the money, travel and early start. Came away with 2 maps which are switched in the car....
1. Track map- 7500rpm, full throttle gear change, over run enrichment etc 181bhp
2. Road map- toned down power, 7000rpm, over run fueling and flat shift off
So not quite at my 190bhp in my head figure yet but the person doing the mapping thinks with the Janspeed manifold and de-cat and timing set to 120-100thou on the cams should be about there but for now I'm happy and can honestly say the car feels very quick and I've had some fast cars in my Time. Anyway here's a video on the dyno and will get some "on the road videos done tomoz...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ggxZIEC0Mdw
ZS Phil
12-09-16, 06:40 PM
Sounds incredible. Nice one :)
Sounds incredible. Nice one :)
Thanks mate got a few sound clips today....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_MmCu5EiBI
peterzs
14-09-16, 11:09 AM
Sounds good, glad it all went well.
Look forward to the track vids.
:):):)
Sounds good, glad it all went well.
Look forward to the track vids.
:):):)
Thanks :) wont be long till get back on track next couple at Bedford full at minute will just go there first as its only 10 minutes away from home just incase any problems come up
ZS Phil
14-09-16, 09:19 PM
Love it. What camera are you using?
Love it. What camera are you using?
Gopro hero 3 plus black. Need to get the external MIC tho
Well unfortunately my months insurance is almost at an end on the ZR but I'm pleased to say it has missed a beat, leaked anything and has been a real good laugh. Got a trackday booked on 5th November with 4 good friends (3x MX5's and a MR2) so cant wait for that hopefully weather will hold out so can use the slicks. Thought as was nice after work took the country road long way home....
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stamford
28-09-16, 07:24 PM
Looking pretty good John. Looking forward to getting my mk1 running again, forgot what it sounds like!
Looking pretty good John. Looking forward to getting my mk1 running again, forgot what it sounds like!
Thanks I know what you mean been almost 2 years to get to this point
stamford
28-09-16, 07:35 PM
Thanks I know what you mean been almost 2 years to get to this point
Well mine's nowhere near that duration! Well not yet I hope! I have to send my 5AS and fobs off to get re-programmed as the imobiliser keeps kicking off.
Well mine's nowhere near that duration! Well not yet I hope! I have to send my 5AS and fobs off to get re-programmed as the imobiliser keeps kicking off.
Ah that should be ok :)
ZS Phil
28-09-16, 08:16 PM
Looks superb.
Which track are you doing?
Looks superb.
Which track are you doing?
Thanks, we just going Bedford as we are all local and there's 5 of us we get 10% discount so that covers dinner :) id like to play it save as well just incase anything starts to play up all being well tho I hope to get to Snetterton or Bands in December
Looks mint. :)
Dunno about that :closedeyes:
looks lovely - hope the car continues to behave on track!
looks lovely - hope the car continues to behave on track!
Me to it was last time out on the the VVC hub failed :trampoline:
Got a load of spares at weekend, local breakers had a MK2 1.4+ in so got a deal for £100 i had from 9a.m to 12 p.m to take what i could before it became a bean can....
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Skillen
10-10-16, 07:27 PM
Jesus! Nice haul there
Think I'd have been to excited with the deal to make my fingers work.
stamford
10-10-16, 07:59 PM
:laugh: my missus would have gone ape if I brought that lot home! Only because I've done that before! I've had doors, bonnets, bootlids, subframes, windscreens etc scattered around the garden when I had the Audi GT racecar.
Jesus! Nice haul there
Think I'd have been to excited with the deal to make my fingers work.
Thanks good stuff the MK2 ZR/ZS is getting hard to find now so thought better get what I can when I can
:laugh: my missus would have gone ape if I brought that lot home! Only because I've done that before! I've had doors, bonnets, bootlids, subframes, windscreens etc scattered around the garden when I had the Audi GT racecar.
Ha luckily she's is ok but just to be safe most things in shed now :trampoline:
stamford
10-10-16, 09:20 PM
Ha luckily she's is ok but just to be safe most things in shed now :trampoline:
I am getting close to needing a shed for ZS spares! Where will it end!
Yep I been told need to het another shed next year as hard to get kids bikes out :no:
Few more bits today, popped over to DVA Power to get a sump baffle....
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And got the switch fitted for the switchable maps....
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Few more bits today, popped over to DVA Power to get a sump baffle....
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how does the oil control compare to the ones with the viton flaps in?
It the same basic shape but it doesn't have the area front and rear where the flaps on the flap version does to allow as much oil though by the looks. I did look at that one but I'm always a bit worried about buying from ebay as the quality is sometimes questionable. Cant imagine DVA would sell a inferior part tho but might order another one to compare
Went for a change on the sump baffle changed over to the viton flap version on the right....
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how do they compare on cost, quality & functionality/purpose?
Cost wise about £15 more for the flap version, as for quality the alloy thickness etc is 100% the same as is the main shape. Main reason I changed is because the one on the right will help to stop oil surge under braking as it as the 2 flaps and plate at the front which the original one doesn't so under hard braking all the oil could still go to the front of the sump. Only way could really compare tho is to data log oil pressure on track with both types
Cost wise about £15 more for the flap version,
considering the cost of those flaps, that seems like really good value for money?
It must be better for oil returning to the centre on exit from a corner also?
considering the cost of those flaps, that seems like really good value for money?
It must be better for oil returning to the centre on exit from a corner also?
Well I guess for £65 its cheaper than the engine oil I use (millers 5w40NT) and considering what I spend on engine id like to give it its best change dont want to be doing anything to though 2017 I hope. Dave at DVA said with his one you may need to cut extra grooves into it if you needed more oil flow but in all honesty without logging how would you know but with the flap version that should be sorted. Apparently this type is what MG used on the 190 spec cars originally but I cant confirm that :)
I think its alternative for the 190 cars as the original setup is no longer available, the original 190 version was more of a box but I remember Paul Luti saying that a bit was prone to come away/break off and it was over £250+vat when it was available.
I think the type you have was made as an alternative replacement for new 190 engine builds as it created a box in a similar way to the old style, controlling oil under braking and lat G (typically 1.25 mean ave) whereas accelerative G would be less than half that in 2nd gear and declining through the cogs.
I think its alternative for the 190 cars as the original setup is no longer available, the original 190 version was more of a box but I remember Paul Luti saying that a bit was prone to come away/break off and it was over £250+vat when it was available.
I think the type you have was made as an alternative replacement for new 190 engine builds as it created a box in a similar way to the old style, controlling oil under braking and lat G (typically 1.25 mean ave) whereas accelerative G would be less than half that in 2nd gear and declining through the cogs.
Yeah the people who made it said they based it on the original version which wasn't available any more and was crazy expensive but said they sell a lot to the MG Trophy boys and no one had any problems but I would think after a while of being in oil the flaps may start to expand. To be fair tho my ZR had 109k, was on original engine and I done 2 years of trackdays with slicks and big brakes all the bearings, crack, cams etc were all in really good condition when I rebuilt it so cant had any oil surge
Well only few days left till trackday and everything turning into made rush again, got sump off at weekend to fit the baffle only to find my sump was different to the normal k series so been on a mad hunt to find another sump.....
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As you can see mine had another bit of cast on the right hand side but anyway that done now and thought i would try some Millers NT oil see what all the fuzz is about hopefully with give me another full HP....
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Also noticed i had a split c.v boot so be a cold one after work tomoz night getting that sorted.
peterzs
03-11-16, 09:07 AM
Good luck with it All.
:):):)
Good luck with it All.
:):):)
Thanks mate
talkingcars
03-11-16, 07:22 PM
Couldn't you have modified the baffle?
talkingcars
03-11-16, 07:28 PM
TBH looking at the two sumps I guess it's just down to wear on the original mould.
Couldn't you have modified the baffle?
I probably could have but I thought id play it safe as time was a bit tight if I cocked it up wouldn't have got another baffle in time :)
Ok guys quick update on trackday. Started off Friday night carrying out emergency repair and replacing a split c.v boot at 8pm....
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Followed by a quick wash.....
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And all was ready for a early start this morning with the boys (4x MX5's and a MK3 MR2).....
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We managed to get a garage which was a bit of luck because morning was damp with a little shower so was on the road tyres till lunch. Thankfully by 1pm the sun was out so the slicks went on....
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I'm glad to report the car was amazing, no problems to report, engine didn't mis a beat all day and pulled like a champ and only was passed by a 2014 M3, a new Focus RS and a 2015 GT3 RS and a set of piper cams wont do much against those. Had a really good day so looks like it all paid off in the end I had to be kicked out at end of day was only car left....
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Was also another MG there which was nice a MK1 ZS180 not sure if anyone knows him was a older guy was good behind wheel tho but was glad the ZR with the work was faster on the straights....
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Any way thats all for now got everything on video so will hopefully get those edited tomoz as takes hours and hours on my laptop.
I probably could have but I thought id play it safe as time was a bit tight if I cocked it up wouldn't have got another baffle in time :)
I'd look at picking up the standard issue sump and welding the baffle in, can often get sumps for a tenner used.
I'd look at picking up the standard issue sump and welding the baffle in, can often get sumps for a tenner used.
Thats what I did mate got one for £12.50 plus post none of local breakers had any
peterzs
06-11-16, 10:44 AM
Glad the car went well.
Bet it surprised a few tyre kickers.
:):):)
Glad it all went well - and you're happy with the work you've done. that alone makes it al worthwhile! :)
Videos here at last....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkd3ZiuIMKI&t=303s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhTSGzvFYec&t=106s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-gfWAxYywk&t=124s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dlffGTVG9s
peterzs
09-11-16, 03:14 PM
certainly goes well.
:):):)
certainly goes well.
:):):)
Thanks not bad for a n/a K series thats for sure :zorro:
stamford
09-11-16, 06:32 PM
Great weather you had. Happy with it?
Great weather you had. Happy with it?
Yeah couldn't believe weather held out, track was slippy in places until lunch but can't moan for November. Well I think I've gone about as far as I'm gonna go with engine, to go any more id need to go full works with steel bottom end etc and to me its not worth it the crankshaft is £1500 alone :no: Think plan is to get the janspeed manifold/decat and coilovers sorted over Xmas and do my ards test then I will cage it, fibre glass boot/bonnet and lightweight windows and that will probably be my lot. Got to draw line somewhere..... I guess :shifty:
over Xmas and do my ards test then
silverdreamracer, aka howard hunt is running ards courses between xmas and new year, a doctor will be present for medicals on the day, everything's included incl 2017 race license, just got to turn up, may be of interest to you?
silverdreamracer, aka howard hunt is running ards courses between xmas and new year, a doctor will be present for medicals on the day, everything's included incl 2017 race license, just got to turn up, may be of interest to you?
That sounds good thanks do you have a link or anything for more info thanks
Certainly goes well with the mods you have done nice one :)
Certainly goes well with the mods you have done nice one :)
Thanks mate appreciate the good feed back from members here
That sounds good thanks do you have a link or anything for more info thanks
https://www.facebook.com/groups/382304855245792/
and a fellow ZS owner and racer :)
Hopefully go easy on me then :group: Do you no what is involved in medical out of interest
Hopefully go easy on me then :group: Do you no what is involved in medical out of interest
simple test of vision (contacts/glasses no problem), pee in a bottle and answer a few questions, nothing difficult, certainly no fitness test.
simple test of vision (contacts/glasses no problem), pee in a bottle and answer a few questions, nothing difficult, certainly no fitness test.
thanks mate do need another set of eyes to see far away :no:
ZS Phil
12-11-16, 01:05 PM
If you do the one on the 29th, I'll see you there!
If you do the one on the 29th, I'll see you there!
Thats one im planning on doing mate just need to check work etc. Are you doing the test?
Well put the ZR under covers for now as wont be on track again till new year but on plus side ordered the Janspeed manifold and de-cat today be here in 7-10 working days. Was lucky to get one as Janspeed are only making them in batches of 5 now when ordered.....
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peterzs
14-11-16, 09:42 PM
good luck with fitting the new goodies.
:bow::bow::bow:
good luck with fitting the new goodies.
:bow::bow::bow:
Thanks mate probably will need it :joker:
ZS Phil
16-11-16, 08:40 PM
Thats one im planning on doing mate just need to check work etc. Are you doing the test?
Cool, be good to see you. yes, I'm planning on taking the test.
Cool, be good to see you. yes, I'm planning on taking the test.
Will keep you updated mate what parts of the blue book you been reading :shifty:
the cd is really all you need to watch (you'll watch it on the day anyway), acquaint yourselves with the flags (covered in the cd video), Howie will cover everything and more.
The blue book is more a reference for race car build, but ask away here also.
ZS Phil
17-11-16, 05:59 PM
Will keep you updated mate what parts of the blue book you been reading :shifty:
Like Jason said, just the CD really although the blue book is invaluable for the car side of things.
Are there any books or videos out there for race etiquette you can recommend?
Thats good to know I dont know why but been putting ARDs off for while dont know why got myself all worked up about it :no:
Few action shots of last trackday....
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ZS Phil
21-11-16, 09:25 PM
Looking good! Is that a go pro in there? Get any vids?
Looking good! Is that a go pro in there? Get any vids?
Yes page 18 mate :pepsi:
sneekyparrot
22-11-16, 06:19 PM
[QUOTE=JOHNDQ;372850]Few action shots of last trackday....
Brillant shots!
first one looks like you can see how the wheel is being forced into positive camber under cornering :)
P.
[QUOTE=JOHNDQ;372850]Few action shots of last trackday....
Brillant shots!
first one looks like you can see how the wheel is being forced into positive camber under cornering :)
P.
Thanks she is only on lowering springs at mo been emailing Avo and Gaz today about some track spec coilovers so can get some negative camber on the front :)
someone does the gaz with custom shim stack for the zr trophy cars, pete burchill may know more
ZS Phil
23-11-16, 09:41 PM
Just watched the vids, she goes well doesn't she. Was that on stock suspension and slicks?
Just watched the vids, she goes well doesn't she. Was that on stock suspension and slicks?
Thanks only got Avo lowering springs at minute but hopefully coilovers be stored over Xmas. All the videos apart from the rearview lap was on road tyres, went on to slicks after lunch but track was a bit quite as went out late so wasn't much to over take so didn't bother putting those videos up as nothing much to see. Must say I was happy with it all tho just not having any problems after everything was a good result
Janspeed manifold and de-cat came today. Hopefully will get it test fitted at weekend and if the fitment is ok will get it heat wrapped. Must say tho the quality seemed a lot better on the Piper and Elise parts manifold, welds aren't that great and thought the pipes would be bigger than they are but see want happens when back on rollers at Emerald.
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stamford
01-12-16, 09:40 PM
What has happened to Janspeed? Does make you wonder if they actually make them. Most likely farmed out to sub standard fabricators. Probably crap gas flow as well.
Must say I'm not completely happy with it but I'm gonna try it but as I said compared to the EP and Piper ones for the Elise/Exige it looks crap all tho it is half the price. Janspeed said it was made to order and took 2 weeks and 2 days to come. I have heard though the trade that Janspeed mostly make after market exhausts now but if that's true I wouldn't know
Dan1971
02-12-16, 09:13 AM
Must say I'm not completely happy with it but I'm gonna try it but as I said compared to the EP and Piper ones for the Elise/Exige it looks crap all tho it is half the price. Janspeed said it was made to order and took 2 weeks and 2 days to come. I have heard though the trade that Janspeed mostly make after market exhausts now but if that's true I wouldn't know
As much as I expect you're keen to get it fitted and see what it's like, I'd warn against fitting them if you're not 100% happy. No doubt they cost you a few quid and their response after you've fitted them and you're not happy won't be helpful.
I'd advise strongly that if you're not happy already, to at least make contact with them expressing your concerns. I'd be asking them how they want to progress. If they say fit and we'll see what the results are - fair enough. After you fit them, you'll be stuck.
If you compare how they look to the way the recently polished up second hand ones that are going to get fitted by Big-Jay they don't seem to be anywhere near the same standard. I appreciate you didn't buy them for looks, but surely it gives an indicator of the quality. Post 19
https://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=30939&page=2
That doesn't look as good as their old fanimolds. What a shame as they used to be wonderful!
Quick update guys spoke to Janspeed the exhausts are now steel as the nice SS ones were cracking so we get the rubbish looking ones now hopefully will get it fitted this week. On a BIG plus note ive passed my ARDS and medical with full marks
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ZS Phil
18-12-16, 09:26 AM
Congrats on the test. Got any hints or tips? How was it?
stamford
18-12-16, 10:09 AM
Well done on the test :thumbsup:
Well done on the test :thumbsup:
Thanks mate
Congrats on the test. Got any hints or tips? How was it?
Just make sure your 100% on your flags mate as sure you are anyway, the ones that I was having to think about where things like when do you hand your licence in for signing at your first race meeting and things like that. Id say watch that bit of the dvd a good few times as was few questions about things like that others were fairly straight forward like what to do if your helmet is cracked, what should you do if you crash and car wont move, where to stop if your car can move slowly (coloured barrier) what should you do if throttle sticks wide open (hit the kill switch and declutch)
peterzs
18-12-16, 06:23 PM
Well done, have to see if you are near any of the tracks near me, love to come along and support you.
:):):)
Finally got the Janspeed on, not rapped it yet just wanted to check fitted which is mm perfect all tho the lambda probe is completely in a different place. Luckily since I done my own loom had enough wire to reroute it. Doesn't seem much louder with the decat thankfully and car definitely feels quicker in mid-range. Just need to increase cam timing on Verviers and get back to emerald for map tweak....
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ZS Phil
28-12-16, 07:12 AM
Thanks for the tips, just doing some swatting up for the big day tomorrow.
Looking good with the decat but I'm going to have to go the opposite way with mine, regs say they have to have a cat fitted, the other issue I had was at the last track day I pulled 111 db on the noise test which is obviously over the 105 limit. Luckily they let me run anyway but im hoping a 100 cell cat will bring it down a bit and keep me legal on both counts.
Hope all goes well mate cant see there being a problem tho if I can do it anyone can :) let me know how you find it is it tomoz your doing it? What series you going for?
ZS Phil
30-12-16, 07:36 AM
Hope all goes well mate cant see there being a problem tho if I can do it anyone can :) let me know how you find it is it tomoz your doing it? What series you going for?
Thanks :)
For anybody else reading it really isn't too bad as long as you know the flags. Some of the questions were hilarious, I remember one which was something along the lines of "When should you present your licence?" Is it... A. To show off to your girlfriend. etc etc.
Anyway, I passed so another step closer to holding everybody up in one of the series, exactly which one I haven't decided. I need to look into entry fees and race dates and make a decision. At present I'm torn between Peter Best and Cockshoot.
What about you?
Thanks :)
For anybody else reading it really isn't too bad as long as you know the flags. Some of the questions were hilarious, I remember one which was something along the lines of "When should you present your licence?" Is it... A. To show off to your girlfriend. etc etc.
Anyway, I passed so another step closer to holding everybody up in one of the series, exactly which one I haven't decided. I need to look into entry fees and race dates and make a decision. At present I'm torn between Peter Best and Cockshoot.
What about you?
Top job mate well done there is some funny questions isn't there, as you say other than flags common sense should get you though really I'm sure I had that question about license to. I think I will be running in 750's hot hatch series. Cant believe you got to use a ZS mine was a 308GTI
Thanks :)
For anybody else reading it really isn't too bad as long as you know the flags. Some of the questions were hilarious, I remember one which was something along the lines of "When should you present your licence?" Is it... A. To show off to your girlfriend. etc etc.
Anyway, I passed so another step closer to holding everybody up in one of the series, exactly which one I haven't decided. I need to look into entry fees and race dates and make a decision. At present I'm torn between Peter Best and Cockshoot.
What about you?
Cams, non standard ratio's or a diff will put you out of class B of the Peter Best and into class 'C'
The V6 is a class 'C' only car in the Cockshoot.
Race fees and dates are very similar for both.
There are more ZS's in the cockshoot, basically all the ZS guys bar Peter Burchill run in the Cockshoot.
Cockshoot Class C can run slicks and full race wets, you could run road tyres also.
Peter Best is road tyres only.
The new gen road tyres are fast, not much slower than a slick.
New Gen wets, such as rainsport 3 are fast in the wet.
Whilst there are gains in full race tyres, they are not huge amounts faster like yesteryear or like some trackday heroes think they are.
Brand new race tyres are more money than road tyres, but you can pick up used slicks for very little money and race wets, whilst rare are not much used.
I looked seriously at the Peter Best for 2017, only to be told by hierarchy that there will be such little interest and attendees in class C that its not worth bothering with!!!
The ZS struggles in parity against the ZR190 at most circuits (this is not a held belief in the Peter Best, but TSL timing evidence supports what I say) but at least you will be racing against other ZS's in the cockshoot.
Cams, non standard ratio's or a diff will put you out of class B of the Peter Best and into class 'C'
The V6 is a class 'C' only car in the Cockshoot.
Race fees and dates are very similar for both.
There are more ZS's in the cockshoot, basically all the ZS guys bar Peter Burchill run in the Cockshoot.
Cockshoot Class C can run slicks and full race wets, you could run road tyres also.
Peter Best is road tyres only.
The new gen road tyres are fast, not much slower than a slick.
New Gen wets, such as rainsport 3 are fast in the wet.
Whilst there are gains in full race tyres, they are not huge amounts faster like yesteryear or like some trackday heroes think they are.
Brand new race tyres are more money than road tyres, but you can pick up used slicks for very little money and race wets, whilst rare are not much used.
I looked seriously at the Peter Best for 2017, only to be told by hierarchy that there will be such little interest and attendees in class C that its not worth bothering with!!!
The ZS struggles in parity against the ZR190 at most circuits (this is not a held belief in the Peter Best, but TSL timing evidence supports what I say) but at least you will be racing against other ZS's in the cockshoot.
Would be a bit unfair to expect the ZS's to be faster than the ZR190's tho wouldn't it they are to be fair running a full race engine
true, yet some think the zs's are running 230bhp or thereabouts, and as we all know, circuit racing is all about the numbers!!!!!!
true, yet some think the zs's are running 230bhp or thereabouts, and as we all know, circuit racing is all about the numbers!!!!!!
What's there engine spec?
270 cams, intake is free but standard throttle body must be retained!!!
ZS Phil
01-01-17, 11:28 AM
Top job mate well done there is some funny questions isn't there, as you say other than flags common sense should get you though really I'm sure I had that question about license to. I think I will be running in 750's hot hatch series. Cant believe you got to use a ZS mine was a 308GTI
I've not really looked into that, whats made you lean that way rather than the MG champs? The 308 uses the 1.6 mini turbo engine doesn't it?
Cams, non standard ratio's or a diff will put you out of class B of the Peter Best and into class 'C'
The V6 is a class 'C' only car in the Cockshoot.
Race fees and dates are very similar for both.
There are more ZS's in the cockshoot, basically all the ZS guys bar Peter Burchill run in the Cockshoot.
Cockshoot Class C can run slicks and full race wets, you could run road tyres also.
Peter Best is road tyres only.
The new gen road tyres are fast, not much slower than a slick.
New Gen wets, such as rainsport 3 are fast in the wet.
Whilst there are gains in full race tyres, they are not huge amounts faster like yesteryear or like some trackday heroes think they are.
Brand new race tyres are more money than road tyres, but you can pick up used slicks for very little money and race wets, whilst rare are not much used.
I looked seriously at the Peter Best for 2017, only to be told by hierarchy that there will be such little interest and attendees in class C that its not worth bothering with!!!
The ZS struggles in parity against the ZR190 at most circuits (this is not a held belief in the Peter Best, but TSL timing evidence supports what I say) but at least you will be racing against other ZS's in the cockshoot.
Hmm, pros and cons for each really. How many ZS's are out this season do we think in the Cockshoot? Be interesting to hear why Peter went over to Peter Best.
270 cams, intake is free but standard throttle body must be retained!!!
That explains your facebook post then!
Mainly because my engine spec now doesn't fit in and nor does my brake kit
Finally got my B&G adjustable top mounts today just need to make my mind up on the coilovers now and get them ordered. Been looking into KW Clubsports but not sure if there going to be a over kill both in terms of price and spec....
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/temporary_zpstx4stkys.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/temporary_zpstx4stkys.jpg.html)
Few from a very dirty and slippery morning session at Snetterton 300 yesterday.....
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http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/CH_170120_SN_0338_zps3tavmnii.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/CH_170120_SN_0338_zps3tavmnii.jpg.html)
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/CH_170120_SN_0515_zpspyzke383.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/CH_170120_SN_0515_zpspyzke383.jpg.html)
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/CH_170120_SN_0576_zpsk6elzc2b.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/CH_170120_SN_0576_zpsk6elzc2b.jpg.html)
Had another go in the 208GTI i done my ARDs test in loved it so much might have to get one to replace the ZR....
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/CH_170120_SN_0803_zpsyhiphgmg.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/CH_170120_SN_0803_zpsyhiphgmg.jpg.html)
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/CH_170120_SN_0802_zpsnl3na5jo.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/CH_170120_SN_0802_zpsnl3na5jo.jpg.html)
ZS Phil
22-01-17, 06:37 PM
Looking pukka!
Looking pukka!
Thanks mate :baby:
Dan1971
23-01-17, 07:42 AM
Good pics. Did it go well compared to others on track?
Nearly bought a 208 Gti when I got the ST Fiesta. Think it would have suited me more - quick but not quite as rock hard suspension as the ST. Fun little car.
Good pics. Did it go well compared to others on track?
Nearly bought a 208 Gti when I got the ST Fiesta. Think it would have suited me more - quick but not quite as rock hard suspension as the ST. Fun little car.
Went ok thanks was very slippery tho in morning lots of red/yellow flags with people going off. In all fairness wasn't that many "normal" cars there was a lot of people testing I thought as was lots of Clio cups, mini cup cars and ginetta's there. Need to get a set of good tyres of when its damp or cold really too
My race licence came today looking at getting the ZR on some test days soon....
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/temporary_zpsb070chom.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/temporary_zpsb070chom.jpg.html)
Congrats :)
Thanks mate :)
sneekyparrot
01-02-17, 05:05 PM
My race licence came today looking at getting the ZR on some test days soon....
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk4/JohnLucy/temporary_zpsb070chom.jpg (http://s276.photobucket.com/user/JohnLucy/media/temporary_zpsb070chom.jpg.html)
Superb :trampoline:
Superb :trampoline:
Thanks mate glad I finally got my finger out and got it done
peterzs
01-02-17, 09:22 PM
have to let us know where and when.
Good Luck for the new season.
:):):)
have to let us know where and when.
Good Luck for the new season.
:):):)
Thanks plan is to be ready for 750 Motor Clubs hot hatch challenge next year
Hi everyone hope all well :) Few clips of my day at Santa pod yesterday. Wasnt the best couldnt get tyres warm and we were fighting a +35mph headwind but had wins against (in order)...
1. Scooby
2. New Fiesta ST
3. Turbo'd EP3 Civic Type R
4. Golf GTD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3QTSaii_Qk
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