V6 bottom end failure

[petet16]

You're right Wayne, the user name is a dead giveaway :-)

[talkingcars]

Hi and welcome to the forum Scott - I've seen the pictures on faceache, looks nasty.

I can't see a failure a few hundred miles down the road being down to not priming the filter unless it causes an airlock at that end of the engine.

[top_man_eldo]

Originally Posted by Scott-Biomorphic

Right ok ladies and gents, the owner is now here, thanks for taking an interest in her, she blew up without warning and it looks like she threw a rod from number 1 which subsequently took out number 2. She had an oil change 600 miles ago and was about to do another to flush it all through, ii should have primed the engine properly in accordance to MG Rover specs but i didnt, i filled the oil filter and then the oil and started her up, never had a problem doing it this way before.

any questions welcome guys will supply piics of the damage and how she sits now if anyone is interested

Regards
Scott

Welcome Scott, sorry to hear about the car! Such a shame when these sort of things happen, especially when you keep up on regular maintenance and look after the car.

I'm pretty certain that I almost had a similar result to what you did, I picked up my second ZS in March last year. It was advertised as mint, although I am the ninth owner (I think) which did ring a few alarm bells, but I went ahead and bought it with the heart, not the head! The fella I bought it off came to pick me up from the train station in the car and all seemed well. I remember him telling me that it had just had an oil change, and a basic service which I thought was an added bonus. The car drove the 250 mile journey home without fault, although it was the following morning that I remember the car developing a cold start knock. It didn't affect performance and I carried on using it, until it came to changing the oil. The oil that I drained out of it was full of metal (the picture is on the forum somewhere). Shortly after this, I decided that it'd be best to change the engine for a known good one, as the cost and time of a strip and rebuild couldn't be justified, and I'm pretty sure with more wear and tear on it, it would have ended up like yours!

I fitted the replacement engine myself in January & February of this year. The car clearly had the fault when I bought it, and I think it was for this reason that it was "passed around", hence why it has had a few owners.

If you intend to change the engine yourself, have a look around the forum. There was a forum member who wrote a thread about swapping a KV6 engine a few years back which I used as a guide, and I also wrote a thread about my engine swap experience as well!

All the best with it, it's a cracking looking car and I hope you get it sorted for the Summer!

[Dan1971]

Welcome. Great to hear the plans for the car. Certainly a rare one for sure.

Only other biomorphic I know of is another member here with a V8 ZT.

[peterzs]

is this the engine swap guide, top_man_ eldo???

http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=24618

[top_man_eldo]

Originally Posted by peterzs

is this the engine swap guide, top_man_ eldo???

http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=24618

Yes that's the one, I found it very helpful.

I done one as well, but was more pictures than anything...

http://www.themgzs.co.uk/vb/showthre...ngine+swap+now

[jc600]

Welcome Scott, hope you get sorted soon and your back on the road.

Got me worried now, my Zed has just had the cambelts done and I had the oil and filter already. So they did the oil change for me. They are MG Rover specialist and xpart garage. So hopefully all will be fine.

[Scott-Biomorphic]

Thanks all. And yes I will be doing the engine swap with a mate of mine. Have done a few engine swaps in the past but nothing quite this big. And hello Matt btw lol. Will be looking at that guide as any help is useful! Hopefully will all be done by the end of next week

[peterzs]

remember the worse bit of getting the old engine out of ZS's old car was knocking the roll pin out of the gearshift mechanism, right pain, had drifts and big hammers as well!!!

[top_man_eldo]

Originally Posted by Scott-Biomorphic

Thanks all. And yes I will be doing the engine swap with a mate of mine. Have done a few engine swaps in the past but nothing quite this big. And hello Matt btw lol. Will be looking at that guide as any help is useful! Hopefully will all be done by the end of next week

Don't be intimidated by it, it was the first engine and gearbox that I'd ever had out. It's actually quite straight forward. My advice to you would be to buy a Haynes workshop manual for the 45/ZS (if you haven't got one already), there are some steps of the V6 engine removal that it doesn't cover and some that I found to be irrelevant, but it's relatively straightforward. Any issues you come across just ask.

Originally Posted by peterzs

remember the worse bit of getting the old engine out of ZS's old car was knocking the roll pin out of the gearshift mechanism, right pain, had drifts and big hammers as well!!!

I imagine that it can be a pain in the a**e, but on my first and current ZS I had no issues with it. The secret with it is to get the car up high enough to get a good swing on it with a hammer and punch. I used a 5mm or 6mm punch on the roll pin, and hit a good few times with the side of the hammer!